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re: Cataclysm Raid Buffs/Debuffs

Postby Wispi on Wed Jul 28, 2010 5:40 am
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Here is the raid buff / debuff design as it stands today. I did not include hunter pets or resistance auras. This is not set in stone.

Agility and Strength - DK, Shaman, Warrior
Armor -- Shaman, Paladin
10% AP -- MM Hunter, Enh Shaman, Blood DK, Paladin
Burst Haste -- Shaman, Mage
3% Damage -- BM Hunter, Arcane Mage, Ret Paladin
Health -- Lock (probably Destro), Warrior, Priest
Mana Pool -- Mage, Lock (probably Affliction)
Mana Regen -- Paladin, Shaman, Lock (probably Affliction)
Replenishment -- Shadow Priest, Frost Mage, Survival Hunter, Destro Lock, Ret Paladin
5% Crit -- Fury Warrior, Feral Druid, Subtlety Rogue, Elemental Shaman
20% Melee Attack Speed -- Shaman, Frost DK, Ret Paladin, Survival Hunter
5% Spell Haste -- Shaman, Balance Druid, Shadow Priest, Destro Lock
6% Spell Power -- Mage, Shaman
10% Spell Power -- Ele Shaman, Demo Lock, Fire Mage
5% Stats -- Paladin, Druid

12% Armor Debuff -- Warrior, Rogue, Druid, Hunter
10% Physical Damage Debuff -- Warrior, Druid (probably bear), Prot paladin, Warlock, Blood DK
30% Bleed Damage Debuff -- Arms Warrior, Feral Druid, Subtlety Rogue
30% Cast Speed Slow -- Warlock, Rogue, Arcane Mage
5% Spell Crit Chance Taken -- Fire Mage, Lock (probably Demo), possibly Frost Mage
25% Healing Taken -- Arms Warrior, Fury Warrior, Hunter, Rogue, Frost Mage, Shadow Priest
10% Melee Attack Speed Debuff -- Warrior, DK, Feral Druid, Prot Paladin
4% Physical Vulnerability -- Arms Warrior, Combat Rogue, Frost DK
8% Spell Damage Taken -- Warlock, Unholy DK, Balance Druid, Assassination Rogue


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Postby Eanlaar on Wed Jul 28, 2010 9:37 am
OY vay... priest (unless its shadow) only does HP buffs.. So that must mean that they are taking away the spirit buff that priests have now.
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Postby Wispi on Wed Jul 28, 2010 1:10 pm
Eanlaar wrote:
OY vay... priest (unless its shadow) only does HP buffs.. So that must mean that they are taking away the spirit buff that priests have now.


Yes. They have decided they want to control how much base regen through spirit everyone has. That way they can focus on making sure all mana consuming DPSers have the mana they need to DPS with and mana consuming healers have to pay attention to the mana they have to heal with


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Postby Eanlaar on Thu Jul 29, 2010 7:19 am
Well.. I hope they give something to priests... cause right now.. the other healers are bringing multiple buffs. And the shadow resist buff isn't much.
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Postby Ciantar on Thu Jul 29, 2010 9:04 am
That stamina buff is blimmin' fantabulous. Sure I can make scrolls, but my scrolls don't also give replenishment, lightwells or shields. Sure, that's utility, but I'm not gonna refuse to bring a Priest because "I can bring scrolls instead, get a shaman." No way bro...

Edit: Also, the spirit buff removal is also because Spirit becomes the "Hit Rating" for Balance Druids, Smellemental Shaman and Shadow Priests. They're no longer fond of the idea that your hit rating depends on who's in your group, so they're not letting anyone have hit buffs (which includes spirit buffs).


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Postby Eanlaar on Thu Jul 29, 2010 12:34 pm
The replishment is given by the shadow priest, not the holy and disc priest. And the better HP buff is only 7 points in the disc priest tree (off course they may changing it).

So all you would need is to take a shadow priest and you still have your HP buff and - spell haste, and replenishment, and the 25% healing.

Currently, if you have a full spec'd holy priest they may or may not have the better HP buff currently (they'd be dumb if they didn't take it currently.. heaven knows what's going to happen with the revamped trees. This is one that would be required by both holy and disc and probably be targeted by Blizzard.)

So are they removing the Dreni racal trait of the + to hit?


It might not make much difference.. cause I might be making my main my pally.
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Postby Ciantar on Thu Jul 29, 2010 8:57 pm
I'm aware that replenishment is given by Shadow Priests. Lightwell is only brought by Holy and shields are best brought by Discipline. It's still utility in some respect, which is nice to have.

Sharing the buffs around means I don't "need" the priest, I "want" the priest... more importantly, I want the person playing the priest, because that person knows what he's doing. My main point is that if I need a healer and I have a priest willing to come along, the only time I won't take the priest is if I nearly all of the other healers are also priests.


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